S7E21 - Luke 9:18-27 - Crucial Questions We All Must Answer

Jesus asks several questions that sound simple until you try to answer them without hiding behind the crowd: “Who do you say that I am?”, "What did I come to do?", and "How will you live in light of these things?” We open Luke 9:18-27 right after the feeding of the 5,000 and watch Luke tighten the focus from public opinions to personal confession. Plenty of people can name a version of Jesus they admire, but Jesus demands clarity about his identity as God’s Messiah, not a character we rewrite for comfort. 

From there, we sit with the hard core of the gospel story: the Son of Man must suffer, be rejected, be killed, and be raised on the third day. We talk about why the crucifixion and resurrection are not optional add-ons to Christian belief, and why they remain the foundation you return to when doubt, pressure, or circumstances hit. Along the way, we reference C.S. Lewis on the challenge of reducing Jesus to “just” a teacher, and we share an illustration that builds confidence in the reality of the resurrection. 

Then Jesus “throws down the gauntlet” with discipleship: deny yourself, take up your cross daily, and follow me. We unpack the kingdom paradox of losing your life to save it, the call to real life transformation (Romans 12), and why prayer isn’t a side habit but a survival line for a faithful Christian life. If you’re tired of casual faith and want a clearer, more grounded picture of who Jesus is and what following him costs, this conversation is for you. 

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Memorial Day Banter And Setup

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Well, what's up, Lifehouse family? Welcome back to the Life Talk Podcast. We are always excited to be bringing you a new episode continuing through 2026 and our just deep dive into the book of Luke. And if you were with us last week, we looked at the feeding of the 5,000 amazing miracle and just putting together how Luke is laying out some very important things, Jesus revealing who he is. But before we move forward as we're journeying through May, and note, we don't even take off for Memorial Day. This episode coming to you. We are working hard on a holiday. Ain't that right, guys? I I roped these three guys into giving up their holiday, but these are some diehards. I got Jeremy Alrich, I think you're taking over Rico's streak now, so this is pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Yeah, I'm trying to claim the new Iron Man streak. That's right. And what better place to be on Memorial Day, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Exactly. Who needs barbecue? We can be podcasting. So good to have our quality control guy, Jeremy, here and a new voice, not completely new. This is what we said, episode three. We got the elder scoreboard. Keith said, I gotta get moving. Keith Henry, our executive pastor. What's going on, Keith?

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Just doing the barbecue outside, waiting for this to be over so we can all eat.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

So this will be a short episode. Is that what you guys are saying? We're gonna get to the barbecue.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I am willing to give up the barbecue today for the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Awesome. That's that's true sacrifice. That's good leadership, Keith. We appreciate you. So and Mitch Poe, our elder, is you're out of retirement, so you might as well just stick with it, right? That's what I'm doing. We roped you in just uh reassignment, I think that's what we heard this past uh weekend.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Keith Keith hasn't asked me to retire again yet. So he's coming, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

He's gonna stay as long as I'm here. There you go. So package deal.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

But package.

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But excited to

Luke 9 And The Crucial Questions

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have you guys as we're moving forward in Luke and again following up the feeding of the 5,000. Really, we're gonna take a look at chapter 9, verses 18 through 27. And then we're also gonna consider a few other verses because Jesus is gonna reiterate some things here. And uh, this is a passage I had done a deep dive on about a year ago because I think it just amazingly encapsulates the what I call crucial questions that we all have to answer. Everybody has to really examine the evidence, examine their faith, and answer some questions. Jesus doesn't allow for us to really take a halfway approach. And this starts in verse 18, when after the feeding of the 5,000, while he was praying in private, and his disciples were with him, Jesus asked them, Who do the crowds say that I am? And they answer, John the Baptist, others say Elijah, still others, the one of ancient prophets, come back. So, theme that we've heard, Mitch is mentioned in bringing this out well, that the crowds have a lot of opinions about Jesus. They're following him for various reasons. And a lot of people are interested in Jesus for those same various reasons today. But then Jesus in verse 20 says, But you. He asks them, Who do you say that I am? And Peter answers, God's Messiah. And so the important part here in this first little part of this passage is that we all have to answer this question. Who do we say Jesus is? This is something that is a personal question that everybody will have to conclude, what they believe of who Jesus said. Do you believe Jesus is, who he said he is? And Jeremy does, we got to have some alliteration. I hear you're on the train maybe this month, but this is going to be a personal question that must be professed in public. Our faith truly can't be private. Jesus puts the disciples on the spot. Who do you say that I am? It's a very important question. We're in a society where the historical Jesus versus

Crowds Opinions Versus Personal Faith

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the Jesus of faith, these are you know things that get thrown around and people want to say, well, maybe there was a guy named Jesus, but you know, was he really the son of God? You know, we get that from a lot of different religions. You know, Mormons will say, well, he wasn't really the son of God. Same with Jehovah's Witnesses, a lot of different Muslims will say, Oh, yeah, he was a prophet, but truly is he the Messiah? That's an important question we all have to answer. So any kind of thoughts on how we see that question answered, posed to people? Really, again, Jesus doesn't give you a third way out here.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

So one of the things that I absolutely love when we're talking about something like this is the the C. S. Lewis famous quote. I mean, Mark talked about it in services and and I've heard it in previous messages before, but like but C. S. Lewis is telling us that Jesus doesn't allow that kind of a room. You have to either and you have to come to a reconciliation of who Jesus is. Lewis would call it like he's either a liar a liar, a lunatic on the level of a poached egg, I think is what the quote was from C. S. Lewis. Or he is or you or he is Lord. And he doesn't give us room to we have to we have to have that, we have to come to that reconciliation in each of us individually.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah, so I I think it has to be a personal we we have to understand it's a personal relationship. It's personal, you know, our culture of today, there's a lot of different things. A lot of people have the political Jesus, uh, you hear about that, the motivational Jesus, you know, the tolerant Jesus, even the social activist Jesus. But it it's not about it, it's about the real Jesus. And I think that's why he asks the disciples, because they're they're learning just like everyone else is. And he says, Who do you say that I am? Meaning, is it personal to you, not to everybody around us right now, but who do you say that I am?

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Yeah, I like how Luke kind of dials this in. Actually, if you back up several verses back in verse nine, this is King Herod he's hearing about. Herod actually says, John I beheaded, but who is this about whom I hear such things? I mean, he's starting to ask questions about who Christ is, just in what you know, hearsay, what he hears. And then Luke starts to really refine this down in 18, talking about the crowds. And I love that you pointed that out, Nate, because Luke, throughout his gospels, points out, goes out of his way to point out the size of the crowds. And we're going to see this in a couple different passages, but and we've already seen it in the past. But then he dials this in a little deeper. Verse 18 he says, Who do the crowds say that I am? The people that are following. So Herod is just like, Who's who am I hearing about? You know, and the now he's dialing in and he says, Who do the crowds say? And then down verse 20 he says, But who do you say that I am? And I think I just love the way he just kind of, you know, just bottom of the funnel, person that matters too most, who do you say that I am?

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Yep. And I think, like you were saying, Keith, there's a lot of outworkings of this. There's some important things and impacts, but it has to start with that personal decision and not making Jesus who we want to be, but who he said he would be. And Jeremy, like you said, C. S. Lewis actually in my notes on this, it's actually in the screw tape letters, where if you're familiar with the screw tape letters, as a as a listener, this is C. S. Lewis's characterization of how Satan and demons would try to war spiritually against people from coming to faith. And in number six, he said, much, but you must keep on shoving all of the answers and beliefs outward until they are finally located in a circle of fantasy and all of the desirable qualities would become inward to the will. It's only insofar as they reach the heart, the will, and are embodied in habits that the virtues are really fatal to us. And here he's speaking from a demon's standpoint. So only when it really truly becomes personal is it fatal to Satan and his demons. So like as long as it stays this outward historical Jesus, social justice Jesus until it truly becomes a personal relationship, that's what Satan wants to do, keep this kind of like maybe curious the crowds, like you said, Mitch, but not truly that personal profession. So if we move ahead though, so we have to answer who Jesus is, do we believe he's the son of God? Very important personal profession. However, even the demons know who Jesus is, right? We see that throughout the Bible, that when Jesus we looked at with the uh miracle of delivering the man from the demons, the demons recognize that he was the son of God. So this is very important. We recognize who Christ is, but now we have to answer, what did Christ do? And so Jesus goes on in verse 21 to say he strictly warned them to tell this to no one, but what does he also tell them? It says it's necessary that the Son of Man suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests, and scribes. Be

Liar Lunatic Lord And Cultural Jesus

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killed and be raised on the third day. So recognizing who Jesus is is the first step, making that personal decision, but then recognizing what Jesus did. Just because Jesus was the Son of Man, he came to make a way, to reconcile us, to be that perfect sacrifice. This is really the entire center of our faith, is what Jesus would ultimately do. And he goes on to foretell this two more times in Luke, again later in chapter nine and in verses 43 through 45 and further a few chapters forward. So this Jesus wasn't just saying this one time. He's like, this is the whole reason the Son of Man came to earth was to be crucified, to take the sins of the world on himself, so that this personal profession that you have made will actually mean something. You won't just be like the demons who have this idea, but you'll truly understand. And this is got my alliteration here, it's a crucial truth, it is central to our faith, and it's concrete. And we'll talk a little bit more about that, like how we know this as the most historically attested fact that's out there is the crucifixion, sticking with the C theme here. But this is something we really have to foundationally stake our faith on. You know, whenever we're going through doubts, whenever we're struggling with our circumstances, really the crucifixion of what Christ came to do is going to be critical.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

I love how uh in verse 20 20, I guess it is, yeah, where Peter, and you know, Peter gets kind of a bad rap through scripture in some cases because you know he got out of the boat, he fell, took his eyes off Christ. There's a number of, you know, he cut the servant's ear off. There's a number of things Peter does, but he's very impulsive. But he's also, if you look at, you know, the three or four times in the scripture where all the disciples are listed, Peter is always every single list listed first. So he's kind of the unofficial or maybe official leader of this group, but he speaks up. And what does he say in answer to this question? But who do you say that I am? Peter answered, he says, the Christ of God. But then contrast that to how Christ described himself. And I'm not saying Peter was wrong, he's absolutely right, but then look at how Christ describes himself in those up those coming verses, verse 22, he says, He does Christ doesn't describe himself as the Christ of God, although he was. He says he's a son of man. And then he gives three descriptions. He has to suffer, he's rejected, and he has to, and he has to be killed. That's how Christ self-described himself. But it doesn't end there. The end of verse 22 says, and on the third day be raised. So that's where salvation is. You know, he's the Christ, he's the Messiah of God, but it's in the fact that you know Christ described himself as the son of man, so he's like, you know, almost debasing himself in some respects. And he's saying he has to suffer. He's going to be rejected by the elders, by the chief priest and the scribe, and ultimately be killed, but on the third day will also be raised. You take a lot of comfort in that. It's good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Yeah, I agree with you, Mitch. One of the things I drew out of that, like that that back on verse 20, when when Peter is saying that he makes this profound confession that of who Jesus is. But we see moving forward that the disciples don't still don't have a full understanding until after Christ is raised. But so he has a a confession, but it like he wants to sh almost wants to shape Jesus into who he into who he thinks he is, right? And Jesus isn't going to be shaped by our expectations. We have to shape our expect we have to conform our our ourselves to who Jesus is. And Jesus clarifies this is what's going to happen, like this is what the Christ came to do.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

So you know Yeah, and I I I think on both your points there, when you look at who do you say that I am, you know, usually these are disciples. I mean, they're learning real time. You know, here we are sitting some two thousand years later looking back, and can we truly answer the question as Christians, who do we say Jesus truly is? You know, in and and I'm not meaning us four here, I'm meaning the Christian community as itself, because a lot of people look at culture, and I'm big on trying to put some application to things with culture and you know the Christian, how how do we deal with that? And what is that what what is my view of Jesus? How do I personally you know look to him and have I truly surrendered in that personal way? Just like Peter's asking these questions to Jesus, but who do you say that I am? How do we do that? What does that look like in our life? Or are we just going through formalities as Christians? Are we

Why The Cross And Resurrection Matter

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truly living that we believe that Jesus Christ is who he says he was?

SPEAKER_02 14:02

And that's what the crucifixion is all about, right? The proof of that. And I think, like you said, Jeremy, you know, Peter wanted, they wanted to make him, and like you said, Keith, learning in real time that what kind of Messiah we think we should have, you know, a conquering hero who's going to overthrow the Romans. You know, we've had different views of the different disciples and you know how they looked at this. But no, Christ is not going to be conformed into what we think, and kind of like you mentioned earlier, Keith, of social justice or you know, the genie in the bottle, making so okay, great, the Son of God, now he's here to serve my desires or what I envision, but no, he came for a completely different purpose to die for our sins, to be a suffering servant, to humble himself, take on our sins, and allow us to have that relationship. And 1 Corinthians 15, 14 and 17 says, And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is in vain. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile, and you're still in your sins. If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied. And remember a talk you gave Jeremy at Forge of, you know, we preach Christ crucified. A lot of people want to take the crucified off and just preach Christ, but if Christ be not crucified, he came for our greatest need, and a lot of times we don't recognize our greatest need is deliverance from our sins. And I said I mentioned this as just such a concrete fact, an interesting illustration. Guy, Charles Coulson, Chuck Colson, if you've never heard that name, he was Richard Nixon's hatchet man during the Watergate scandal, and we could study and do a whole episode just on some confidence in the Bible and many things. We won't want to spend all the time on that here, but how he came to faith was, you know, of course, he's this bad guy, been involved in a scandal. But what he realized during that scandal, there were 12 of them, and they couldn't keep a secret for more than two weeks, just under penalty of prison at the time. And so he reflected on that and he said, if the disciples, under penalty of death, persecution, beating, and the worst life you could imagine, continued to proclaim the resurrection all the way to their death, that's got to be fact, you know, or at very minimum, they believe that they had seen Jesus resurrected, or they would not have been proclaiming the truth. So, like how we can take confidence in the resurrection. Yep. But if we move forward to the uh really last part of this, so these are foundational questions. We have to answer who Jesus was and what he did. Now Jesus goes on to challenge us, like, okay, let's say you get those two things right, how are you now going to live your life? How is that going to impact you? You can't answer those questions in just a casual way and think that life is just going to continue just in the way that I want it to go. So in verse picking up 23, then he said to them all, If anyone wants to follow after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life because of me will save it. For what does it benefit someone if he gains the whole world and yet loses or forfeits himself? For whoever is ashamed of me in my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and that of the Father and the Holy Angels. Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God. So Jesus really throws down the gauntlet. He says, If you're going to follow me, there's a cost to it. Like proclaiming faith means you have to change your life. You know, we are given throughout the Bible, we are a new creation, we are new in Christ, the old is gone, we receive a new heart. Again, we love some C. S. Lewis around here, and he's answering the idea of is Christianity hard or easy? And again, we come to faith knowing it's nothing we can do. But the ordinary idea which we all have is that we have a natural self with various desires and interests, and we know something called morality and decent behavior has a claim on us. We're all hoping that when we get all the quote unquote demands of Jesus have met been met by our poor natural self, we'll still have some chance or time to get on with life and do what we like, like if we can just check all

The Cost Of Discipleship Daily

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the boxes. But if we're we're very like an honest man paying his taxes, he pays them, but he hopes there'll be enough left over for him to live on. But C.S. Lewis says the Christian way is different, both harder and yet easier. Christ says, Give me all. I don't just want this much of your time or this much of your money or this much of your work so that your natural self can have the rest. I want you, not your things. I have come not to torture you, I will give you a new self instead. Hand over your natural self and its desires, not just the ones you think wicked, but the ones you think innocent, and I will give you a new self instead. So when we truly examine ourselves what Christ did and saved us from, we like we recognize the amazing new life in Christ that we're able to experience, the freedom that we talk about in scripture. And so this comes with a desire for newness. There has to be a desire for change, a denial of our old self, and then that dedication to follow after Christ.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Yeah, I love how you know Peter again, he says, you know, the Christ of the Christ of God is his declaration, and then Christ's self-description, the Son of Man, he has to suffer, he's rejected, he's going to kill. And then look at 23, he starts, and he said to all, he didn't say it to Peter. Peter was one who just spoke up. But he's now widening his audience, he's speaking it to all his disciples. So this is a this is a blanket imitation. If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow me. In other words, how he self-described himself, suffering, rejected, and being killed is largely the path that many of us have to take. And he that's why he says, if anyone would come after me, deny himself, take up his cross daily. It's not once in a it's every single day, is the Christian walk. And then he just goes on, he suffered. One of the verses that has always, when I was I remember as a kid that I was always kind of confused about is verse 27. It was the the inverse or night that you you landed on. It says, But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God. I used to scratch my head as a kid thinking, all right, well, Christ lived 2,000 years ago. You know, he obviously hasn't come back. People aren't 2,000 years old. How's this verse kind of accurate? And then I kind of realize, well, keep reading, and we'll get into this, I think, in next week's podcast when we talks about the transfiguration. But that's the part where he says, you know, some standing here will not taste death but till they see the kingdom of God or the glory of God. And we'll talk about that one, I think, in the in the next week's. I love these nuances. You know, Peter comes out with this huge declaration. Christ self-describes himself as having to suffer, rejected, and being killed. And then the imitation is not to Peter, it's to everybody. He widens the audience if anybody wants to come after me, you got to do three things. Deny yourself, take up your cross daily, and follow me.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Yeah, so Mitch, that there's a great point there because it is a daily obedience. It is a holiness to God. You know, and when we think of it, it's about really genuine life transformation. You know, if you go over to Romans chapter 12, verses 1 and 2, basically it says, I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world. But the key word there is be transformed. Be changed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. So I I think the call there basically Jesus is putting out there is total allegiance to the faith, total daily surrender. And that is something we as people, as human beings, we have to do. You know, we talked about that, you know, the armor of God the other week and talked about putting that on, and it's a daily thing. It's a public identification of who we are in Him, meaning Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

Yeah. I couldn't agree more with you, Keith. With the what and what draws what stands out to me and when when I see these passages, there's a couple of them in the Gospels. But these kingdom paradoxes that we see where it's an ups like Jesus brings in uh turns things upside down from what we what we normally would see. You know, whoever would would gain his life must lose it. And those to those types. We'll see, not to s not again, not to spoiler alert, but like we'll see some more of those when we in the in the coming podcast. What one of the things that I that I'm drawn to when I when I think about this, uh if you want to gain your life, you must lose it, is John twelve twenty-four. Jesus says, Truly I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls on into the earth and dies, it remains alone. But if but if it dies, it bears much fruit. Whoever loves his life loses it. And whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. So I mean, we have to die to self. What's one thing that we've been talking about every uh the this whole intent of this

Prayer And A Transformed Life

SPEAKER_03 23:55

of this point? It's it's it's a daily surrender, a daily dying to self so that we can bear fruit, so that we can and and you know, bear fruit for the kingdom.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

It really comes to that point of when we accept Christ, when we answer these questions, recognizing we can't do it on our own. We need him daily. It's not a one-time thing, it's a lifelong walk of Christ because he cares, because he gives us a greater way to live. And Francis Schaefer put that put it this way: no work of art is more important than the Christian's life. And every Christian is called to be an artist in this sense. The Christian's life is to be a thing of truth and also a thing of beauty in the midst of a lost and despairing world. So I think building on Romans 12, one, like you brought up, Keith, like we live in such a way to display Christ.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Yeah, you know, I I think one of the questions you could ask yourself, ask the listener today, is if following Christ became costly like it was to the disciples, would I remain faithful? I mean, we we live in a very comfortable Christian society. We're not living on the other side of the world where it's it costs you something. I mean, what's it gonna cost us today? The neighbor not talking to us because we invited him to church, because we became a witness somewhere, a co-worker? What does it really cost us? And I think the reality is the Christian being a Christian in our culture today is very easy and can become very complacent because what does it really cost us? This guy, they it costs these guys their life.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

I think, you know, when you think about the the the harshness of the Christian life that that's really described from verse 23 down through 27, you think about like what's what what are the ingredients that I need to be able to live that life successfully? And I think there's a hint at it, and it's not even hints, but it's almost overt. It's in verse 18, it's just how this whole passage started out. I love how Luke frames this up. He says, and now it happened that as he was praying alone, that's Christ praying alone. And it just now it happened. It's just like it was a Tuesday kind of thing. It just Christ was alone praying. I think one of the key ingredients that we don't tap into enough is prayer. And the way you're going to live the successful Christian life and endure what he's talking about, suffering, rejected, being killed, and everything that he's talking about bearing your cross daily and following him, you have to do it through prayer. And then as soon as when Jesus was doing that, then the disciples came to him, and then that's that's when these questions started. And then one of his answers, that they answered, says John the Baptist. And we already talked about him because Herod said, I killed John the Baptist. So they're thinking he came back from the dead. The other one he mentioned is Elijah. We're going to see Elijah, I think, next week in the next episode when the transfer he shows up again. So it's kind of interesting, I just think that how Luke, I love his writing, and he's always been my favorite gospel. I love them all, but Luke is supposed to be my favorite because I mentioned this in one of the early episodes, because he gives a picture of Christ, but he also gives up the description of the church in the book of Acts, because he wrote both. So I just love how he writes and kind of frames

State Of Theology Poll And Closing

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things up. I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Yeah. So appreciate you guys' thoughts. This is again super important. Like these are the questions that if we don't get these right, we're we're honestly not Christians if we don't really answer these questions. And sort of a sad state of affairs, uh, ligonier, I think, is an organization. They do, I think every two years it's called the State of Theology poll, where they actually take a random sampling of these are people who go to church, various denominations, but they'll ask them sort of these questions, the same questions that Jesus answered. And in one of their recent ones, over 3,000 quote-unquote Christians surveyed, and they put the statement, Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God. 55% of people that go to church agreed with that statement. 13% were not sure. Even evangelical Christians, 61% agreed with that statement. And Jesus says right here, like, no, if I'm the Son of God, if this is what I came to do, this is that's not true. And then a next question they ask, they say, Jesus was a great teacher, but he was not God. 53% agreed with that statement. So evangelicals do a little better, 44% agreed, and 11% not sure. But there's people in church who aren't answering these. And on the last question about the daily walk, the question was asked, God is unconcerned with my day-to-day decisions. 42% of quote unquote Christians agreed or were unsure about that statement. And so this is something why, you know, for our listeners, as we dig into scripture, these are really important questions to be asking yourself. What do you believe? And how does it impact your daily life? So make sure we study scripture, we know who Jesus is, who he said he was, did what he said he came to do, and asks us to follow him, to have that personal day-to-day walk. It's not just a casual thing. So, Lifehouse Family, thanks for taking the time to listen to us, guys. Appreciate all your input. We pray that this episode helps you in your walk. Consider these questions as you go through your week. Make sure you're solid in your faith, what you believe, why you believe it. As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to uh respond to those in the podcast. We love questions and input from our listeners, and we will look forward to seeing you next time. Thanks for tuning in to the Life Talk Podcast. If this episode encouraged you, please be sure to like, comment, subscribe, and leave a review so others can find this content as well. And we'll look forward to seeing you next Monday for another great episode.