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Pastor Podcast - 2 Corinthians 3 - The Ministry of the Holy Spirit
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If you’ve ever wondered why spiritual progress can feel so hard even when you “believe,” 2 Corinthians 3 brings the issue into the light: the Christian life is not powered by grit, image, or religious box-checking. We kick off a new series by digging into why Paul talks about the Holy Spirit so directly and why our theme verse this year, Zechariah 4:6, is more than a slogan. When God calls us to obey, change, and endure, it won’t be by might or power. It will be by his Spirit.
We walk through three big movements in Paul’s message: validation, elevation, and transformation. Paul refuses to play the credential game, pointing instead to Spirit-written hearts as the real “letter of recommendation.” That leads to a personal question we all have to face: does my life validate the gospel, or does it create confusion? From there, we explore the contrast between the old covenant and the new covenant, and how the Holy Spirit elevates our perspective so we see suffering, hope, and purpose with new eyes.
Then we lean into the practical edge of the chapter: boldness, freedom in Christ, and the unveiled life. “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom” is not just a verse to quote, it’s a new way to live. As we behold the glory of the Lord, we’re changed “from one degree of glory to another,” often through discipline and even through trials that become fertile ground for sanctification.
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Welcome And Series Kickoff
SPEAKER_01Well, hey Lifehouse family, welcome back to our Mondays or after action. We come up we'll come up with a better name, maybe. You know, it's we do need to come up with a good name. Well, send us your suggestions, you know. I know we call it on the podcast the Pastor Podcast or Reflections. We'll think about that. We'll get back at you. Yeah, of course. Give me some time. We should have an intro to that. Yeah. But we joke, but it's a great time. We spend early in the week to go back into Sunday's message, dig a little deeper. We appreciate you joining us. And new series we're starting, 2nd Corinthians. Oh, it's exciting when we kind of kick off new book, new scripture passage, kind of thoughts.
SPEAKER_00And we're not doing the whole book, not doing the whole book, but really again, just to kind of explain why 2 Corinthians and why chapters 3, 4, and 5 is specifically tied to our theme and emphasis for this year regarding the ministry and work of the Holy Spirit.
Why 2 Corinthians And The Spirit
SPEAKER_00Our theme verse for the year is Zechariah 4, 6, not by might, not by power, but by my spirit, says the Lord of hosts. And really, you know, with that context, it was the people who were the followers of the Lord, you know, they knew that if they were going to build the temple, be obedient, it would not be in their own strength, in their own power. But the same is true for us today. Like as believers, even under the new covenant, which Paul addresses, it's if we're gonna do what God has called us to do and be who He has created and called us to be, it will be by the power of the Spirit. And seven times in Second Corinthians chapter three, 18 verses, Paul refers directly to the Holy Spirit,
Clearing Up Holy Spirit Confusion
SPEAKER_00you know. And I do want to just kind of as a caveat, Paul doesn't really address this, but I do think there's a lot of confusion about the Holy Spirit, a lot of claims about the Holy Spirit, and tied specifically to the way people worship. And I think that there's a lot of things that people do and they say that's the Holy Spirit, that's God. And I don't necessarily think that's always the case. I want to be humble, you know, in that and not, you know, I don't know everything there is to know. I one of the reasons why I want to focus on the work and ministry of the Holy Spirit is because I feel like my understanding of the Holy Spirit is lacking. Like I think oftentimes in the Baptist world, we neglect the Holy Spirit out of fear. And really, you know, just because we see people abuse and refer to things so often that we kind of do the other thing and, well, I don't I'm not gonna go there, you know, but I don't think that we should do that. You know, the third person of the Trinity is the Holy Spirit. And so Paul talks of the Holy Spirit freely, you know, and so I I feel like I want to focus not at the expense of the Father and of the Son, but in addition to the Father and the Son. And so, yeah, that that's why uh 2 Corinthians chapter 3 and 4-5.
SPEAKER_01Just like Jesus tells us, it's better for him to go away, which is a shocking thing for us to think like, you know, but he says, When I go away, the Holy Spirit will come. You will have a helper, you will have the power. He's sending us that power of not fear, but love, self-control, all the things the Holy Spirit provides. And so important in our walk, you know, like you say, sometimes we are figuring out, we're all still figuring it out, you know, in many senses, but the power to change, which we'll talk about, you know, you hit on yesterday, transformation, validation, all really the points, that's going to be by the Spirit, you know, why we can have assurance of our salvation, why we can see the transformation, how we can in our lives, it's going to come by the Holy Spirit, because that's the first step in salvation is admitting we can't do it in our salvation. But then I think in our consistent walk, everything we then do, we start to recognize, yeah, when I try to do it my way, it doesn't go so well. Not such great results. Not such great results. But exciting getting into 2 Corinthians, focus on chapters. And so, yeah, like you said, Paul has a tremendous focus here on the Holy Spirit and how it validates, elevates, and transforms. But maybe talk about validation, how we can view
Validation Through Changed Hearts
SPEAKER_01that.
SPEAKER_00So, really the context of the letter, you know, Paul was a part of planting the church in Corinth. He was there from the beginning, but God had led him on to share the gospel in more places and plant more churches in more places. He loved this church. This was his church family. You can read about the planting, which is so cool, of the church in Corinth in Acts chapter 18. So, side note, I think it's fascinating to do. But so he loved these people, these were his church family, and in his absence, like word had gotten to him that these false teachers, as he calls them, are rising up and leading the church astray, teaching things that really contradict the gospel. You know, you hear me say often that the gospel with additions, which essentially was what the Judaizers were teaching, is not the gospel. Like, no, Jesus paid it all. It is finished, he said, on the cross. And so we rest in the work of Jesus Christ and in the power of Jesus Christ, the ministry of the Holy Spirit. Like from beginning to end. It's not, you know, we're saved by Jesus, then we save, say, stay saved by our own works. No, we don't work to be saved, we work because we're saved, right? So Paul's really confronting and kind of speaking to and in light of those false teachers and just reminding them, like, you know who I am. Like, go back to when you first heard the gospel and believed the gospel. Remember what I told you. And he basically was saying, like, you know, in in those days, they didn't have the technology that we did, that we do, and and the the networks. So a lot of times pastors would would go when they would go from town to town and they would have like a letter, a certification, if you will, from like a mother church. And so Paul's saying, like, do I need to go like get a letter of recommendation? Like, do I, you know, I mean, like, and really he's not defending himself as much as he is defending the gospel that he preached, the ministry that he was leading. And he was just saying no, like clearly, like the Holy Spirit, the fact that you are what you are, is validation that the gospel that we preach is real, it's legit, it doesn't need a letter of recommendation, like the evidence is in you, you know, in your hearts. And so there's validation there. And I think so, kind of application, and what do we do with that today? I I think it's a good thing to look inward. Like, does my life validate the reality of the gospel? Am I confused? Like, we need we don't need to be confused. Paul didn't want his church family to be confused, and he writes with the heart of a pastor. He loves these people. You know, he's saying, like, you know, like there should be no confusion. I'm burdened because I think that in our world today, and especially in American evangelical Christianity, there's so much confusion. You know, and I just my burden, my heart is for my own life, but also for our church family. Like, I don't want, I want everyone to know what I believe, who I believe in, who I love, who I serve, why I serve. Like, I don't want there to be any confusion. I want my life to be a witness, you know, even without saying words. I want it to validate the truth of what I believe, undeniably. And so that's kind of the idea of validation with that first point that we were talking about in the first six verses.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think important context that you bring up with Paul, and it's the second letter, and studying from as we were preparing, you know, for the series, like 1 Corinthians is a pretty confrontational letter because, like you said, there's lots of issues, lots of false teaching. And so in this thing, the vision in the church, yeah. Exactly. And obviously, we jumped to chapter three, but much of the first two chapters is Paul validation, right? Like this is the truth, and he's going to obviously validate through the Holy Spirit, you know, the validation of the gospel, not having to have letters of recommendation or all these accolades or things, but truly the Holy Spirit will validate the work. Right. I think even, like you say, going back to Acts, a lot of the Pharisees and Sadducees who were wanting to put down the church, and can't remember which one it wasn't, Galileo, maybe it was, but it's like, hey, if this is from God and the Holy Spirit's behind it, you know, you're not gonna stop it. You're foolish to oppose it. So that validation, you see the fruit. You know, and I think that's where a lot of churches, if we're trying to do a church or do church and all in our own power and not the spirit, it's eventually going to be invalidated.
SPEAKER_00Well, and he even goes on to say that in addition to saying, like, you're our letter of recommendation, you're our validation, he's even saying, my sufficiency, our sufficiency as Christians is from God, is of God. It's the Holy Spirit that enables us to do like what he calls us to do. Like Paul had been a part of a lot. He did have an extensive resume. You know, we can read about that in other places where he lists, like, I'm a Jew of all Jews, a Pharisee, you know, the tribe of Benjamin. You know, I mean, like, I've done there, I've been there, you know, done it all. And by this time, he'd already been used in great ways to advance the gospel and plant churches. And he could have said, like, you're questioning me? Like, really? Like, look what I've done. But he says, No, like, look at my life. My sufficiency is from God. Like, there's evidence, like clearly, like, you know, we bear witness, you know, with the Holy Spirit. And so he's, I love that too. Like, he he claims in verse 5, he says, we are not sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of a letter of the spirit, that these false teachers are the the the old covenant was the letter of the law, but a new covenant was a letter of the spirit. The letter kills, but the spirit gives life.
SPEAKER_01And on the tablets of the human hearts, right? It won't just be these written legal aspects, but the true change, you know, that it will start to everything he's laying out. Like not telling you a bunch of rules for the sake of giving you a bunch of rules, but to truly see change, which we'll get to the transformation on the last point, but that's the validation of seeing that process even start, I would say.
SPEAKER_00Trevor Burrus, Jr. So let's just let's let's let's let our lives by the power of the Holy Spirit be validating, you know, of the gospel.
SPEAKER_01It's interesting, you know, if you look at like addictions or you know bringing in one, step one is admitting you can't do it. Yeah. You know, the step to any overcoming sin, death, anything is admitting that I can't do it. I need the Holy Spirit, I need this power that comes only from Christ. I can't. So that validation starts with that admission and giving in, I would say. Aaron Ross Powell Absolutely. Yeah.
Elevation From Old To New
SPEAKER_01But then we move to elevation, so where he leaves us, we don't stay where we are. I think that's a common thing of okay, great, I got but no, that doesn't mean we stay, you know, low in our sins, low in, but we start to move forward.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Ross Powell We move forward. And really, so but kind of this this section verses 7 through 11, he kind of does this compare-contrast between the old covenant, the old system, like the law given through Moses, referring to the letters written on stone, the Ten Commandments, and then the new covenant, which he refers to and uses these dramatic statements, like he refers to the old covenant as a ministry of death, as a ministry of condemnation. But he still says that it came with glory, and so he's not like saying like Jesus did not come to abolish the law. Paul's not saying that either. Like God used the law, like it was a part, it pointed forward to the new in a glorious way, you know, and it was of God and it reveals God's character and so many good things, but he's saying now, like what we're a part of, the new covenant and the ministry of the spirit, the ministry of righteousness, like has much more glory. So why would you want to subject yourself and come under the old system when you have and have access to the new by the spirit? And so he's making this like, yeah, forget these false teachers, forget what they're trying to tell you. Remember who you are, remember what you have believed, remember the gospel, and be who in the spirit I have created or God has created you to be. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I think, like you say, the veil is critical here in terms of the lenses we see the world through, you know. Yeah. Worldview or or whatever. It's different terminology. The important part is when we have the spirit, we're going to now view things very differently. And it's going to raise our awareness, you know, instead of being in a you know materialistic kind of low view of humanity, but elevates. Like now we see, you know, with those fresh eyes, we see the purpose. Even again, we back in chapter one, he talks about suffering. Like we're now able to view these things entirely differently because we have been elevated through the spirit.
SPEAKER_00We see things in ways that we could not possibly see them before, enabled by the spirit. Our essentially, our blind eyes have been opened, you know, and our deaf ears have been unlocked so we can even hear things and sense things by the spirit that we were oblivious to before and in tune. The spirit, you know, reveals things, you know, to us that help us on our journey with Christ.
SPEAKER_01I think you pointed out, you know, verse 12 boldness comes from that hope. You know, like again, always struggle to know how people do it, you know, without Christ. I think I heard a good thing. You do it through lots of therapy these days, so you have to survive. But you know, the hope that we have, because it has elevated our faith, yeah. Now that we see that, now we have hope. We can be bold, we can walk in a newness and a confidence.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that that kind of transitions to the last point transformation, verses 12 through
Bold Living Without The Veil
SPEAKER_0018. But specifically in verse 12, Paul says, and I love this, he says, since we, and he's not just talking about himself and his ministry team, he's talking about all believers. He's referring to himself and his church family in Corinth that he's writing this letter to. We have a hope, like the hope of Christ, the hope of redemption, a hope that will not be like leave us ashamed, right? He says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, but says, because of that, because of what we have, because of what we believe, the Holy Spirit, like we are bold. Not just we are bold, we are very bold. And that word that's in the Greek that's translated as bold there is not necessarily meaning just simply courageous or bold, but it's more like we're open, like we shine, like we are obviously people who believe, like we we we don't hide it under a bushel. Like we're bold, like we shine. Essentially, that's kind of the exhortation here. Like, this is who we are, this is what we do. We don't lay low, like we don't try to hide who we are. Like, no, we are in a humble way, loud and proud for the glory of God. Like we are very bold. This is who we are. Be who God has created you to be without excuse, without justification, like with without reservation, like be bold. I love that exhortation. Since we have such a hope, because of the gospel, because of the spirit, we are very bold. This is who you are, right? Believers, are you bold? Like this is who you are. You may not be living boldly, but you are bold. Like you should shine the light of Christ, essentially.
SPEAKER_01I 100% agree. And I think too, relating that a little bit to like identity, when we have the new creation, we can be bold in admitting who we are, you know, admitting the truth. Like, yeah, I was a sinner, I still struggle in some areas, but that's not who I am. I have been transformed and being, which we'll talk about one degree to the next, I'm seeking that transformation. So I can be honest, the sin no longer owns me. Again, we're the Spirit of the Lord, there's freedom. You don't have to be shackled by sin, you don't have to be shackled by guilt. Now I have that freedom to be bold, you know, to say, you know, too often we, you know, like allow Satan to tell us lies if that's who we are, and it he's trying to make us timid and not share.
SPEAKER_00Sit down and shut up, essentially, is what the world and what Satan tells us to do, but we're to rise up, we're to shine. We are very bold. We're not like, and he even uses an illustration, a comparison, we're not like Moses who put a veil over his face, right? Moses had glory because he had interacted with the Lord. Like he, that Shekinah glory, he radiated. Well, that's what we're to do. We're to radiate the love. We're not to put a veil over the glory that that that that evidence of the spirit. Like we're to allow that to shine, to permeate, to impact and influence the lost and dying world that God sends us into, if that makes sense. We're not to be like Moses who put a veil over his face. No, we are very bold. We don't wear veils, right? So very important.
SPEAKER_01And where the spirit of the Lord is, of course, the Holy Spirit is. Yeah, freedom. Yeah. We don't have to be, again, identified with our old sin, our old self. We have freedom, and not freedom from, you know, I always we've said this probably a few times, but I think it always bears repeating. We have our American individualistic, yeah, like free from all of these things, but we're free to and we get to do.
SPEAKER_00You know, so Tom, so so people often are confused. The Judaizers were confused, and they're thinking of these false teachers were thinking of Christianity as rules, regulations, rituals, like things that we have to do. If we're going to appease God, if we're gonna be in right relationship with God, like we have to do these things. But no, like when we understand what Christ has done for us, the sacrifices, the love, like all of it, the gospel, we're motivated. We get to do these things, we get to gather and worship, we get to give, we get to serve, we get to live in an impactful way. Like it is, we're free to do those things. We're empowered, equipped, enabled. We we don't need to make excuses because we have what we need to be who God has called us to be. We're free to do those things. And the spirit of the Lord is where the spirit, the Lord is the Spirit, so there's the Holy Spirit. Let's not be afraid of the third person of the Trinity, clear stated there. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. We don't, you know, drudge around mope be, you know, like shackled. No, like we rise up, we go and worship the Lord in spirit and in truth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I think that's so important too. Again, tying to the elevation ideas, like when we see it as a freedom too, it's no longer box checking, it's no longer ritual. It really frees us to enjoy, you know, coming to church and worshiping, gathering together, doing Bible study, prayer. Like those are a joy. You know, those are enjoy.
SPEAKER_00I love that you use that word. So let's look at that last verse and think about that word enjoy. I love this. We all with unveiled face, without obstruction, the ability to see clearly, beholding the glory of the Lord. How's that sound? Does that sound like a burden? Yeah. No, like if that's something like let I'm I'm in. Like, like sign me up. Behold the glory. That's what we do. We're beholding, we're experiencing, we're encountering. Like we have a relationship with a holy righteous God. We're beholding the glory of the Lord. Like we're in the Old Testament, under the old covenant system, like, you know, only one priest could go behind the veil, like one time a year, and there were all these compartmentalizations, and you know, they had a mediator that, you know, they didn't have the access that we, under the new covenant through Christ, have access to. And so we behold the glory of the Lord. All of us do, with unveiled face. And as we do that, we cannot help but be changed. As we behold, we are naturally transformed. We grow, we mature, we learn. You know, I thought, I talk about, you know, when you're born physically, from that point, you then grow, you develop, you learn. You know, the same is true spiritually. When you're born again, born of the spirit, born of above, when you're saved, you then from that point grow, you learn, you mature, you're transformed, you develop. And that's what this is saying. And we're all doing so in in the same image. We're all not, you know, you know, so many people say, Well, this is what I believe, and this is my Christianity. No, it's the same Jesus, it's the same gospel, it's the same truth, and we're all headed in the same direction, following in the same footsteps. Jesus left us footsteps that we might follow in them. The same image. We're transformed, we're growing. Oftentimes, sadly, I don't see that taking place. And so that leaves, and I don't say that in a condemning judgmental way, like as a pastor who God has given eyes to see, to notice these things, I'm burdened because I'm like, man, that person's not being transformed. They've been here for 10 years, and they're, if not in the same place, in a worse spot than they were, than they were saved. So, what's going on there? Like, are they beholding the glory of the Lord? Are they in the word? Are they gathering with the saints? Are they walking and following Jesus? Or are they just not? You know, are they confused? You know, and so this is saying this is we all, Paul himself, the church in Corinth, this is what we do. We behold the glory of the Lord and we are transformed as such. We grow, we mature, we develop from one degree of glory to another, one step at a time. It's a process, but you want to see that growth, you know, and I will say that some people grow faster than others. Others. I'm not saying that you know that there's a right speed, or you know, there's seasons of growth and seasons of you know waiting and different things like that, but just yeah, 10 years, there should be some growth, there should be some progress. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree. And like you say, it's the one degree to the next. And I always kind of say a good evaluation is are you closer to the Lord today than you ever have been? And that sounds, again, like not trying to be condemning, but if you know we're following this verse, that should really be true. You know, every day, every season, it's drawing us seasons of sufferings, even all the things will draw us closer as we behold the glory of what he's teaching. When we look back and see what God's doing, it grows our confidence. You know, as we study more, it brings us closer. You know, so I always say, and if you're not, why not? You know, like Jeremiah calls it backsliding. You know, sometimes it's easy to fall back into old ways, old habits, unfortunately become lazy about things like spiritual disciplines, which can, you know, unfortunately move us back. Doesn't mean we're necessarily not saved, but we're missing out on being closer to Christ, on building that relationship.
SPEAKER_00We can be malnourished.
SPEAKER_01What is the thing?
SPEAKER_00We can be, you know, I mean, if we're not feasting upon the word, if we're feasting upon the world, you know, I mean you know, I mean, we can be malnourished and therefore not grow in a way that we could grow. But ultimately, though, we must remember that last statement for this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. Are you abiding? Are you dependent? God gives the growth. Yeah, you know, God is the one ultimately, the spirit of God within us is the one who transforms us. This is not like as disciplined as you may be, I'm gonna pull up my bootstraps and grow. No, we look to the Lord. We lean on the Lord for this progress that we want to make, like we want to be closer. And he, again, he's not playing games. It's not a riddle that we have to solve. Like he makes a way, he parts the waters, he builds the bridge that we can walk across to experience and behold his glory and thereby be transformed and grow and learn and mature.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Yeah. Remind, I think this ties to Romans 12, you know, one and two, which says transformation comes through the renewing of our mind. And let you say that comes through the spirit as we allow God to help us understand. It really comes down to what we believe. So the more we're growing and allowing the spirit to illuminate God's word, to bring us to prayer, to shape how we go, the more that mind renewal happens spiritually. That's where really a lot of then the change in how we view things and start to act differently, I think, is initiated. In another verse, I always love Colossians 1.29. You know, we toil, we strive, we have a role, but it's through God's energy. You know, so like if you're in that point, you think, you know, you give up or whatever, like, hey, we have a point to, you know, continue forward, but we allow the spirit to give us the energy, the direction, the moving us forward for that transformation to happen.
SPEAKER_00Amen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01How people change, right? You know, it's pretty important. A lot of people feel like they come to belief, but maybe there's just habits, patterns in our life, but true change, true transformation comes through the gospel, that elevation to not say
Transformation Through Trials And Practice
SPEAKER_01what we're saying.
SPEAKER_00And I would say, even, you know, this transformation oftentimes comes through challenging things. Like this isn't just like, hey, let's go to a picnic and grow. Let's go to the party and let's grow. Like, oftentimes, as a part of the process, discipline is involved, trials and tribulations are involved, you know. I mean, but it's it's sanctification. And, you know, I the saying that people were familiar with, no pain, no gain. Oftentimes, through pain and suffering and trials and tribulations, the Lord uses in glorious ways and in ways that we can say, I think of, you know, Paul's thorn in the flesh when he said, you know, I praise God for the thorn, even though initially I begged him three times to remove it. Through that process, like his power was made perfect. And I experienced him in ways that, his glory in ways that I would not have otherwise. And so we can say and remember that testimony when we're going through hard times and not think of, oh, well, I can't grow now because I'm going through a hard time. No, those that's fertile ground. You know, I mean, it's quite the opposite. It is an opportunity. This is why I believe James says in James 1, 2, count it an opportunity for great joy when you meet trials of various kinds. It is an opportunity. And so, even though it's hard, and I'm not just gonna say, you know, put on a happy face, suck it up buttercup, but but really think about where you are, even though it may be hard. Like, God, what do you want me to see, learn, grow? How might I grow or benefit spiritually from this trial and tribulation in such a way that overshadows the pain and the suffering?
SPEAKER_01So just building on the points, elevate your perspective of that so that you can see the transformation that can happen.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And by the Spirit, I this is something I think, evidence of the Spirit. We are given the ability to see that opportunity by the Spirit of God. This is not mind over matter considered an opportunity for great joy. It's Spirit of God, give me the ability to see you in this, you know, and the benefit and the blessing associated with even this hard thing. And the Spirit of God does give us eyes to see those things, discernment, wisdom from Him, and understanding, whether eyes we would not have that understanding or access to that wisdom. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01God's word is so good, just so much packed in, even just to one chapter, talking again, even with it on identity, transformation, freedom. Yeah, you know, a lot right here, of course, all of that tied to the Holy Spirit that brings freedom, that brings transformation, that brings the truth in the validation of our identity.
Don’t Neglect The Holy Spirit
SPEAKER_00So, yeah, let's not be afraid of the Holy Spirit. And in fact, assess your life. What role does the Holy Spirit play in your life? I mean, clearly throughout scripture, it's revealed to each, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12 7, is given a manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. You know, unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, John chapter 3, verse 5, you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. So you must be born of the Spirit. So are you neglecting, rejecting, ignoring the work of and the role and the person of the Holy Spirit? Let's not do that. You know, let's be humble, let's be reverent as we do so. But yeah, like show us your glory, Lord. Show us your glory through the Holy Spirit.
SPEAKER_01We can be bold. We you have gifts, you have abilities, you have opportunities that God is putting around us through the Holy Spirit. Allow Him to remove the veil and see those so that we can be who God created us to be.
SPEAKER_00Amen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, Lifehouse family, thanks so much for joining us. Again, our prayer is that this encourages you, gives you something during the week. It's not just a Sunday faith, but opportunity to continue to study. So we pray again this moves you forward. Thanks so much for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you next time as we continue through 2 Corinthians.